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We know you’re itching to push play on your brand new copy of Star Wars: The Force Awakens, so we’ll be brief. There’s a brand new piece of insight we thought you’d like to know about Kylo Ren. He’s a bit more messed up than we thought.

Ever wonder about that pile of ashes Kylo Ren slammed his helmet onto just before he started interrogating Rey? Some have just assumed they’re Darth Vader’s ashes retrieved from Endor. He’s an obsessed fanboy, why wouldn’t he have his ashes? But according to J.J. Abrams, it’s far creepier.

“The backstory is, that that table has the ashes of the enemies he’s killed,” Abrams tells Entertainment Weekly in an exclusive interview. “That moment was actually shot for, and meant to be used in, the scene where he was talking to the Vader mask.”

So… We have a serial killer on our hands. He’s an intense, tortured psychopath with a nostalgia for the Dark Side, who also takes trophies from his victims (aka their incinerated remains). If that’s not a new, eerie dimension of this character, I don’t know what is.

“He originally had his mask off the first time we shot that scene,” says Abrams, referring to the scene in which Adam Driver is talking to Vader’s melted helmet early in the film. “Then we reshot it with his mask on, but we had that shot which I loved and thought was so cool of the mask being slammed down into that ash. So that shot was stolen from the scene that we had changed and put into the scene with Rey.”

In drafts of the script, Kylo Ren always removed his mask to show his face to Rey. The only difference was what he did with the helmet once he took it off. What better place to put it than in the pile of ashes of his defeated enemies? It certainly adds another point to his intimidation check, don’t you think?

“He used to place his mask gingerly onto a piece of the set, which was incredibly unimpressive,” Abrams says with a laugh. “So this moment made it a much cooler beat.”

There’s just one question that still remains about this little tidbit: who did Kylo Ren incinerate?

Source: Entertainment Weekly

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Christina E. Janke

Christina is the co-host of “Intro to Geek” on Shauncastic and Editor-in-Chief at Agents of Geek. Her love of all things Mass Effect knows no bounds. She also carries an obsession with comic books, video games, and quirky television shows. Her heroes are Tina Fey, Amy Poehler, and Gail Simone. She hopes to be just like them when she grows up.